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Please understand that the intent of this article is NOT to condemn homosexuals; but rather, to take a Biblical stand against the Homosexual Agenda. We ought not be gay-bashers; but we should preach the truth about the sin of homosexuality. The Bible condemns all humanity as guilty, dirty, rotten, hell-deserving sinners (Romans 3:10-23; 6:23). Thankfully, Jesus came to SAVE SINNERS! Serial killers, government tyrants, academic liberals, Catholic priests, politicians, Mormon Church higher-ups, Jewish rabbis, environmental extremists, communists, religious heretics, mass murderers, occultists, spies, and the Illuminati share something hideous and grotesque in common. Almost all are homo-sexual. Worse, most of the sick-minded men who comprise these demented social groups are not only homosexual, they practice the most kinky and perverted forms of sexual licentiousness-pedophilia, satanic bondage, physical torture, bisexuality, transvestitism, and even bestiality. If you doubt this, I invite you to consider the wicked lives of some of these moral degenerates—men like Lenin, Mussolini, Hitler, Marx, Jim Jones, Alfred Kinsey, Michael Jackson, Jacques DeMolay, Bill Clinton, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Mick Jagger, Aleister Crowley, Hubert Humphrey, Paul Tsongas, Martin Luther King, Mario Cuomo, Rudy Giuliani, Jeffrey Dahmer, Richard Speck, and John Wayne Gacy. Homosexuality is a disgusting sin, listed in the Bible next to bestiality (sex with animals, Leviticus 18:22-23). The Bible says in Leviticus 18:25 that God vomiteth homosexuals out of the land. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/homosexuality_is_a_sin.htm

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Vicknesh,
First, thank you for sharing; though you have not shared anything that hasn’t been heard before. The problem here is that most of those who believe as you are so willing to provide information that supposedly condemns homosexuality, yet you, and those like you, are not willing to hear or read what others may have to say. Hopefully you will read this in its entirety and not be one of those who can dish it, but not take it.

Now, you mentioned “agenda”. There is no agenda. By definition, “agenda” is that which is to be done. There is no agenda here, there are only people who are who they are and want to live the life God has provided without discrimination for there truly is no difference between any of us who are in Christ [Galatians 3:16].

As for the scripture you have provided in Romans, allow me say that this scripture speaks of sin in general and does not mention homosexuality at all. When read in correct context, we understand that Paul trying to teach the meaning of the cross for the believer’s life and why Jesus died for all human kind; the fact that sin separates us from our heavenly Father and how Christ has bridged that gap to restore the relationship between man and God.

The scripture in Leviticus, again, misrepresented, misinterpreted and misused. If read in context, studied fully, you would realize that this is all about shrine prostitution and sexual immorality. It was a huge deal back then, especially for the Jew if a man spilled his seed [during the immoral act] because the seed is the future generation and the promise between God and Abraham. It is shrine prostitution, idol worship and immoral sexual acts conducted for the purpose of idol worship and ceremony. It was because of this that Moses had said what he did. This has nothing to do with two people who love one another. This has nothing to do with a monogamous loving relationship between two people.
You also have to realize that when it comes to revising and interpreting scripture, there are difficulties in translation. For example, sometimes English requires a preposition when Hebrew does not. Because of this, some translations require an addition of words in English that cannot be truly translated from Hebrew and in doing so, the meaning/context of scripture is changed.

We as a people have to stop looking at black and white and truly study the word; that means, the history, the culture of the time, the laws of that time and that specific culture, who wrote the scripture and to whom the words were directed; and why those words were chosen for that specific audience. There is so much to learn and understand, but it is so much easier to be lazy and just take it at face value and use the word to judge and condemn others.

If there is an “agenda” my friend, it is not coming from us; it comes from you and those who share your beliefs in trying to make us live a lie in order to make you comfortable. Using the bible and misinterpreting scripture is not the way to do it. I ask you this…… tell me where Jesus said that homosexuality is a sin? I’m not talking about what Paul said in regard to the lives being lived in Corinth and the worship of fertility gods and goddesses; I’m not talking about what Moses said in relation to shrine prostitution. I am asking you to share with me where Jesus, our Lord and Savior condemn homosexuality. The word homosexuality, by the way, wasn’t always in the bible. Perhaps researching how that happened may be a little helpful to you as well.

You said that “The Bible says in Leviticus 18:25 that God vomiteth homosexuals out of the land”.
This is a perfect example of how scripture is misused and misinterpreted by those whose’ “agenda” it is to judge and condemn and discriminate. That is not what scripture says my friend. When we quote scripture, it should be done properly.

Leviticus 18:25 “For the land is defiled; therefore I visit the punishment of its iniquity upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants” [NKJV]. Uhm…. The LAND vomits out. It doesn’t say that God vomits out homosexuals. Please be careful how you quote the scripture. This has nothing to do with homosexuality; again it is about the sin being committed in that lands by those people within the context of their laws of that time.
Ok, I think I wrote more than I intended. Hopefully you have read this all. If not.. I wouldn’t be surprised.


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You are a liar, hypocrite, self rightness, moronic fool and a uneducated one at that !
How dare you invade this space which is here to reconcile, people with their faith and who are looking for acceptance, love forgiveness, understanding.
It is your hate, and ignorance and the way you are comfortable in your own evil self loathing, which are self evident. You have no place here, as you are wise to not post of your self, you coward.
I will ask those who have created this site to ban you, as I am sure unless you yourself see the error of your ways, of hating, hurting and bashing, you are more of a abhorrence and abomination, then those who understand the words Our Lord spoke, when he said;
John 3:16


New International Version (©1984)
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

English Standard Version (©2001)
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

International Standard Version (©2008)
"For this is how God loved the world: He gave his unique Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.

King James Bible
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

American King James Version
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

American Standard Version
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Bible in Basic English
For God had such love for the world that he gave his only Son, so that whoever has faith in him may not come to destruction but have eternal life.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.

Darby Bible Translation
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whosoever believes on him may not perish, but have life eternal.

English Revised Version
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Webster's Bible Translation
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Weymouth New Testament
For so greatly did God love the world that He gave His only Son, that every one who trusts in Him may not perish but may have the Life of Ages.

World English Bible
For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Young's Literal Translation
for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.



Genesis 22:2 Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."John 6:40 For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies;Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.Romans 8:32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?Ephesians 2:4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,2 Thessalonians 2:16 May our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who loved us and by his grace gave us eternal encouragement and good hope,Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.1 John 3:1 How great is the love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him.1 John 4:9 This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.1 John 4:10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,
New International Version ©1984 by Biblica

Beautiful To Him
From: SusanEyerAnderson

Who writes on her facebook webpage: "This video is not intended to offend anyone..but to uplift, touch, and encourage people."

I would really like to think that this very special place, website, is to heal the broken hearts, shattered spirits who yearn for the "Good News" which is that,
"God Is Love" and that "Love covers a multitude of sins"

It Gets Better: Bishop Mark Hanson, ELCA
The leader of one of the largest Christian denominations in the U.S.
http://youtu.be/VJOhjLXJmaY

Televangelist Oral Roberts' gay grandson says "it gets better"

Randy Roberts Potts reads a letter to his gay Uncle Ronnie, who met an untimely death in June of 1982.

http://youtu.be/KYa0wi4XzeI

It Gets Better - Jake Shears
http://youtu.be/FjFxosDnzOo

It gets better - zachary quinto
http://youtu.be/D0OeSs870ys

A Message from Kathy Griffin
http://youtu.be/Vu2JeZn1Uw0

Daniel Radcliffe PSA for The Trevor Project
http://youtu.be/iMaVp_kQDqU

CBST LGBTQ Synagogue
http://youtu.be/OtXx8ptxt2Q

CBST LGBTQ Synagogue
CBSTEQUALITY's Channel
http://youtu.be/F-OJWfVo2Uk

My Friend Jake Walden,
IT GETS BETTER - singer/songwriter Jake Walden

http://youtu.be/woL-v2N-G7g

Be you...it's worth it...(The Trevor Project) - Jake Walden -
We are NOT Broken!

http://youtu.be/pxTjhez7QvM

Celine Dion + Others - Voices That Care
http://youtu.be/NRrAzDbYc68

Christ do not come to condem,
But rather to heal the broken Hearted, to bind the wounds, to heal the sick and the infirm ed, and to reach out to those who society has marginalized, to those outcast, disowned and those Condemned by others, even the churches and other people and organizations.

Cast the First Stone

http://youtu.be/2k0RzhVJSxE

A Reminder to Those in the Pulpit

http://youtu.be/NDTzcFgUiz4

Jesus meets woman at a well

From the Gospel of John, Jesus talks to a woman who comes to draw water

http://youtu.be/z7INnvnHrlg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6IemLU0z2Y&feature=colike

Jesus Teaching in the Temple
http://youtu.be/eJPiPkqlJQg

Now Please compare what if you have watch all of those links and have listen to my words, who is/are better "Christians those who accept and love OR, these same people who claim to be "true Christians"?

Homophobic Father Confronts Gay Son
http://youtu.be/W4I0cbs7HTQ

Why Homosexuality Should Be Banned
http://youtu.be/lSfFa44p96o

Or you can continue on the road you are on, I can't stop you, but you can open your heart and soul and learn to love that which you may not understand but you understand, that any judging, isn't yours to make, it belongs to God.
All He asks of you, is to follow Him, to love others as you love yourself and to forgive others that hate you for following Him.
Or you can stay and join these people If you really believe that these people are "Christians"

Talking with the God Hates Fags people part 1a
http://youtu.be/8fUhHmwPxsY

Crazy Baptist Lady On Tyra Bank's Show
http://youtu.be/X1Ck4m9EXeo

Shirley phelps thinks that the amish girls deserved to die
http://youtu.be/-Q-cWm2gpx0

Pat Robertson Overheard During Commercial.
http://youtu.be/FUbvc5U-H-I

Jerry Falwell claim 9/11 was caused by gays
http://youtu.be/MK_hYsCkDH4

Jerry Falwell blames gays & others for 9/11
http://youtu.be/P_8dSnKiaD4

Pat Robertson - 5 insane quotes
http://youtu.be/u_Pp6b0ZV4g

This is what hating others does, we cannot even count the untold numbers of people killed throughout the ages in Someones' vision of Gods will or in His Holy name

Real execution ( Stop The Gay Crime , Iran!! (
http://youtu.be/zL_zP2pHp3w

West Wing - Dr. Jacobs - Bible References - Owned by Prez.
http://youtu.be/eD52OlkKfNs

The West Wing Gay Rights Hate Crime Speech
http://youtu.be/UcLPPiaJ4Ag

West Wing on gays in the military
http://youtu.be/3jWOamlD9_8

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Dave_John_41664
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oh....someone needs to get over themselves......OUT LOUD GAY PROUD AND CHRISTIAN .....Get back in ya rocking chair darlin !!


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Michael_Wolfe
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He is str8 and in our group wonder why...Maybe he is looking for a mate...


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OK..First off heard it all before and on a regular basis since My mom is a preacher...i have to hear it alot. I as well am a minister yes a liscenced minister who loves women. MY mother on other hand looks down upon it as most preachers do. In any case I dont take the time to let anyones comments or opinion or what so ever cloud my mind, or effect my day or waste time getting angry and someone for what they may have to say. I can say if you have the time to dish out you opinion please take same respect and time and hear what we have to say in return and not many want to do that. Also so many gays/lez take to much time hating christians etc because what they may dish out or believe. I say there is no point in it because everyone is not that way. Yes some go about what thet believe the wrong way entirely. And so many christians have the nerves to hate or mistreat anyone that is gay or lez or trangender etc. and if you are a true person of god you would not hate..mistreat or abuse anyone. So this cycle of destruction, hate,and condemnation is getting/gotten old. Its alright to have a belief nothing wrong with it, free country....but at sametime dont forget we all are human all have feelings and all deserve respect. We love you for who you are and the way you are..everyone ask the same in return. I love and respect all..hate is not even a word in my vocabulary. each to there own and everyone be blessed and be happy...


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Dave_John_41664
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well written Vicknesh.....i agree x


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Susan_Duviella
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Well said Monique.


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one more thing if you are not gay, lesbian,transgender then why are you even on this site hmmm must be the curious one.... please dont tell me you spend your day searching for gay sites just to put your 3 sense across. Because personally thats a waste of time, and you must not have much else to do. believe me when i say the sites dont need you because im sure we all hear it out side of it..but if you take precious time out your day to find us then its a problem your problem and you in return need the help not us...im just saying because thats just ridiculous....so like i said you on this site and not lez,gay,transgender, then obviously must be curious.


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Michael_Wolfe
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I was wondering the same thing....


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Michael_Wolfe
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Well dave I will not even comment on what you said...


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This guy isn't going to care what any 'gay' has to say. He's just doing his job. What's funny though is that he really doesnt even care about you. It's just he/ she feels this is the only thing in life to do because he is on 'fire' to prove to himself of his own salvation by being abstinent from any association with weakness'. His strength instead is in his supposed victory over being subject to being a part of 'us'. Jesus didnt like it when a man prayed to him thanking Him that he's not like 'these'. But God honors the man who truly lives his life as it comes and humbles himself to feed and clothe these. My father was a preacher. So I been to many churches all my life and I have seen what Sin is. These 'kids' are still in school thinking that their appearance in religious activities is going to win them favor. My FATHER, when he is aging and nearing death, he will not ask me where I stand with God. He will look at me as his son and smile. That's my son! I love him! This time i had when i lived .. to spend with him and listen to him, to love him, to encourage him in uplifting things. When a MAN reaches the point of death, he does not see the wrongs of others. He sees life what it was, the oppurtunity.

All my life all i have heard is this Judgement against sinners. My parents even stopped me from watching the Disney Channel because the Southern Baptist Convention discovered homosexual innuendos in the films. My step-father sat silently with me in his car while my mother stepped out, told me, You know, you can commit suicide if you want. God will still accept you. Maybe I heard him wrong. Maybe he didnt say that. I just remained silent and got out of the car. But i heard it. I was my mother's pride and joy. And he turned her against me to suffer the road of hard knocks by not being involved in my life at all. They have denied me as their son.

And I love Starbucks. I'm glad they support the gay community and environmental causes to better the planet from the oil you're using to drive your cars. I ride a bicycle in my stand against this Holy War of witchcraft. Talk about Hitler, well Christians sure need their gasoline and will spill much blood to have it! You going to pig pickins barbeque after the sermon? Tell the waitress how Jesus loves her but forget that you're defiling the 'Holy Day' by putting her to work for you so you can eat? How about the taxes yo pay to uncle sam whom you condemn as part of the conspiracy to sodomize your children, but you write off your offerings to GOd as a tax write-off? You're not giving to God, but to yourself.

Starbucks helped me. I lived under a bridge in Hollywood for over a year after my late wife's death, my family abandoned me and no one helped me. Until finally Starbucks customers and baristas helped me and got me into my own apartment. SO FUCK YOU! WHO the fuck are you? All my life all i have done was searched for God. Cause that's the way my family would have it. Completely alone. Usually, that's the way religious people are too. You see them standing on the streets holding signs to Repent and blah blah. Schitzophrenics. No one will listen to them, no one will help them, been told to look for God. They say they love God and to repent, but they actually hate GOd. How do I know? Cause I'm one of them! But i didnt allow myself to go that far to be a murderer. To be completely hopeless that no one could ever love me. I overcame the odds and I say Thank You God. Thank you that I have an oppurtunity to tell these men and women that they are loved.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong to support those who are having identity issues by saying it's ok to dress like MArilyn Manson! Here! Let me give you a razor to cut open your legs cause its so painful! Maybe I'm wrong for giving the knife to him. But i know that the one who really loves me, and who is counting the hairs of my head and not my sins, I know that he brought me out here for a purpose to suffer these many things, as the many 'artists' and 'men of renown' you condemn. The Church has killed me. I am dead. I am not the same as you. This life i live is not my own but is directed by another. (Gal. 2:20) I am cruciifed with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ who liveth in me, and the life which i now live in the flesh i live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me.] He proved it. Back the FUCK off now! Cause i got a gun right up to your forehead and i will not give a second thought. Dare me? But no, you would charge me with being a killer. And so be it. To destroy everything about you for denying these whom God loved.

One more thing. Matthew 19:29-Who ever forsakes family, mother, father, brothers, sisters, wife, husband, children, land, homes, job for My sake will receive 100-fold and inherit everlasting life.] But no, there is not one. No, not one. God has searched amongst you and all the earth and never has he found one. Only Jesus. He is the only one worthy of opening up the Lamb's Book of Life wherein the names are written therein. Therefore, it is not in your power to be saved and redeemed and delivered from these burdens, but it is Christ who did the work. So WHO the FUCK are you MR. Rogers to want to come into my home and give me a bible lovely neighbor so i can redundantly bang my head against the wall, no hope, omg, i want to die, fuck you Mr. Fuck you. May you die. FOr all youve done to strip your neighbor of his love. You are the sodomite. DOn't you get it? can't do this cant do that. What hope is there? I dont want to be talking to an invisible God all my life having no one. All these beautiful things God made in life-these are what i want to see and for people to feel it's safe to approach me. To not feel alone. I would much rather a man rape me who's going to reclothe me and fill me up with warmth and food and an embrace I Love You! than ever to be stripped by a religious fanatic who leaves me naked on the streets. THAT is the real sodomite!

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Wow Cat,
My sweet friend! I hear such pain and sorrow in these postings! How can I help you? I will only say this, Sin is sin. Every single person on this planet falls way to short of God's grace and mercy. This is why God sent Jesus and there are those of us here that have a geniune relationship with Jesus my awesome friend! I honestly love you and care about you. Tell me how I can help you and in the meantime I will be praying for you.

I pray dear Jesus, that you surround this incredible young man with you strong arms and heal the horrendous scars that he carries in his memories and soul. I ask you Lord to reach down and bring him comfort and strength. Cat you can always private message-ALWAYS!!

PEACE be with you Cat


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@ Debbie, I just noticed your reply. That is good to know that there are some of you who have a genuine relationship with Jesus. Because he has always been with me i know. to have some hope that life can be as good as it can be bad. honestly the only good memory i have in life is when my mother married her new husband when i was 11. to see her laugh, happy and free of fear. and that he gave everything to her, my little sister and I. it showed me that healing and well-being can come over night from the greatest horror. God can appear at your door in an instant! with all the promises he's put in your heart. I know you care about me, Debbie. I can hear it. and that and you acknowledging me is about all i can ask for. i don't know why God put such a burden on me, but all the gays' feeling the way i feel is close to God's heart. and i guess He's just using me to express His feelings. i dont mean to really put the church down either, but He was mad with the Church too when John the apostle began the story of God's anger at the 7 Churches in book of Revelation. and he said I know you have done all these things for me but you lack one thing: Return to your 1st love or I will trouble you with all these things in Revelation which are to come and take away my oil from your lamp. Today, He's literally taking away the oil, but oil represents the Spirit/ Comforter too. Your 1st love is Jesus. He loved you unconditionally. So acknowledge Him! It makes me feel really stupid when people tell me to dimiss God and go with the rest of the world in their confusion and spoil in having what they think i need. I would never rob a man, but i know God is faithful to bring me all things i need. and the greatest thing that makes me happy is when i can know that someone became free from the strongholds of the Lie that God meant this for us to suffer. I always need your thoughts and prayers, Debbie and friends. Probably that i can use this passion in a book i feel God wants me to write and a career as an actor. Cause my deepest feeling of God is that he intends us to have the desires of our hearts, but that he wants it to be real for you. something you worked very hard for. Lol. -Cat


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What the writer needs to remember is summed up in this little piece of scripture.

Matthew 7

Judging Others

1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.


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