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Posted

You would think that the powers that (Here in the US) are would immediately stop sending any money to this man and his regime because frankly the money could be better spent here at home and like I've said before, we can not buy friends, and in this partially case not only shames us by the way that they have mistreated, international rights workers (Amnesty International of which I am a proud member and sponsor of), and the International Press corps as well as killing hurting, maiming countless, innocent and peaceful civilians, claiming that they were The Egyptian Presidents backers/supporters which we know is a lie. He said he would leave office when HE was sure that his country was not going to be in turmoil, (How much more turmoil do you need, to realize that you are the reason for it?)

Please pray for the quite brave Egyptians who stood up to this tyrant and his regime and our part in all these years in supporting him.

It is quite odd to me how life sometime imitates art or is it the other way around?

In the Lord Of the Rings, we have the Evil Characters by the name of Sauron & Saruman like almost but not quite: Omar Suleiman, the recently appointed Egyptian vice president

Vice President Sauron?

Sarin
GB, isopropyl methylphosphonofluoridate Military medicine A nerve gas, chemically related to certain insecticides–eg, malathion, developed as a chemical weapon by the Germans in 1936 Mechanism Sarin is an anticholinesterase that affects nerves, muscles, glands Route Aerosol, skin contact; one drop may be fatal Clinical Pinpoint pupils, severe headache, drooling, N&V, convulsions, severe dyspnea, respiratory paralysis Treatment Atropine, PAM. See Chemical warfare. Cf Tabun.
McGraw-Hill Concise Dictionary of Modern Medicine. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.

Artist: Saron Gas
Song Title: Senseless Tragedy


Look in to my eyes and see my pain
Now that I lost what I thought I had gained
Sourness and fear is all I taste
Now I understand what I had to waste
My love
Look into the fires you left behind
Smoking ashes sear my mind
Im concerned and in denial
Clip my wings put me on trial
My love

Now theres only me
God has made me weak
Now theres only me
Gone is apathy

Look in to my eyes and see my pain
Now that I lost what I thought I had gained
Sourness and fear is all I taste
Now I understand what I had to waste
My love

Now theres only me
God has made me weak
Now theres only me
Gone is apathy

Historys in the mind of the teller
The truth is in the tale
Historys in the mind of the teller
The truth is in the tale
In the tale
The truth is in the tale
The truth is in the tale

(Maybe this is just me and my crazy observations drawing lines, they only exist in my mind as I pray about these events and a good out come)

--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Elijah Zarlin, CREDO Action wrote:

From: Elijah Zarlin, CREDO Action
Subject: Photos: The health care repeal forms you sent to Congress
To: "Andre Zitouniadis"
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 7:29 AM


Dear Andre,

Thank you for taking action and sending a health care cancellation form to Congress after the outrageous vote to repeal the Affordable Health Care Act.

More than 97,000 constituents faxed the federal health care opt-out form directly to their representatives who voted for health care repeal and continue to receive generous federal health benefits. Another 86,000 people sent the opt-out form to House Speaker John Boehner.

Yesterday, CREDO Action's Becky Bond and Matt Lockshin were in Washington, D.C. and delivered the forms you sent to Speaker Boehner — including a giant version of Boehner's federal opt-out form. I thought you would enjoy the pictures:




The more than 183,500 forms you sent to Congress helped deliver a large, powerful message: that voting to repeal the entire health care reform bill — and affordable care for more than 32 million Americans — was more than just callous and unproductive. It was also profoundly hypocritical.

It was no surprise that this health care repeal effort was defeated earlier this week in the Senate. And while Republicans will continue to challenge this law in the courts and in Congress, we at CREDO will keep doing whatever we can to bring about a health care system that offers affordable care to all Americans.

Thank you for helping to call out hypocrisy in Congress, and for your continued action to work for progressive, affordable care for all of us.

Elijah Zarlin, Campaign Manager
CREDO Action from Working Assets


© 2011 CREDO. All rights reserved. Questions? Send us an e-mail or write us at: 101 Market Street, Suite 700, San Francisco, CA 94105.

Pray for Our Brothers and Sisters in Egypt, although they are a people of a different faith their faith in God never the less is the tie that binds us to them.
Imagine if the US had this kind of support in the search for Osama Ben Laden & The Taliban Islamists extremists or in Iraq? How very different would the outcomes be as well as the length of time, energy, money, and loss of lives!

Sorry for the typos and mispellings


Posted

And what will be the outcome? This scares me more than anything. Will it become another radical Islamic State. Another Iran, or soon to be Iraq and Afghanistan?

We supported Saddam until GW decided it was time to get rid of him. He, with all his faults, kept down the radicals. Freedom comes with a price and apparently the people in those areas are not willing to pay that price. They seem perfectly happy to just go from one totalitarian regime to another.

I shall watch with anguish as this story unfolds.


Posted

Hmmmm.. I could probably go on all day about "freedom" and "democracy". Suffice to say that I think democratic government is probably just one of the slightly better options of a bad lot!

If you look around the world, the places which currently have the best standard of living, the least poverty and the safest streets are all in the middle east, all "constitutional monarchies", and are all run by powerful Muslim leaders.

All we need now is for one of those states to ease up on gay rights, and I, for one, may move there! ;-)

Democracy probably isn't right for Egypt, as it is not right for much of the world. Possibly the worst thing we British ever did was to introduce democracy to the African nations. The customs, cultures and even the geography of those areas just doesn't lend itself to democratic government.

I just pray that whoever ends up in charge in Egypt does as good a job for them as Prince Mohammed has done in Dubai!

Price of freedom? What about the price of happiness? ;-)


Posted

I am not taking exception to what you are saying, Ian, HOWEVER, if one looks at the Middle East as a whole, from Lebanon, though to now Egypt, it is a mess. The only stable governments seem to the the totalitarian states such as Iran, and if it hadn't been for the actions of the "president" they would still be a mess.

I do wish the Egyptians the very best, and have prayed for them. I just hope they have more desire for the freedom they say they want and the ease at which a dictatorship can fall into place, simply exchanging one for another.


Posted

You are forgetting the UAE, and the other Gulf States, which are some of the MOST stable countries in the world. Also, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait (which has come back from the Iraqi invasion to become one of the richest countries in the area), Jordan (admittedly oppressive for gay men, but nonetheless stable and successful).... All of these, along with so many other states in that area are Monarchies. The problems come with military leaders (such as Sadaam) or with Clerics (as in Iraq), who set themselves up as dictators with no basis in accession.


Timothy_Brown
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@ Andre: I quite agree with you about Egypt and I very much appreciate what you and CREDO are doing to fight off this repeal of Obama's health care plan. I have lived in Germany for the past 20 years ad ended up getting leukemia and was very pleased with the health care I received there. It is NOT a Socialist system as some may claim, it is a social system, which is one thing this country needs.


Posted

When I was younger, I remember (Maybe from my Grand mom) said to me that "The kitchen is the heart of the home" So I thought Hospitals should be the heart of society, where people care enough to be there for others, that's why I became a Nursing Assistant, In the mid 1970s. When I saw them change into big corporations, where money and not health care was the main focus, I got disgusted and left, because people and patients didn't matter, the bottom line did (Money), If they are able to find a cure, (for what I have) I will be happy to resume my duties at the patients bedside, or in their homes.
People who are sick and or dying should be worrying about the hospital bills.
I've been to enough Dr's homes to know that they are not hurting for it.
Not that they don't deserve it, but they can do with less and still have a quality Heath care system. If Republicans, gave a _amn, they would have passed Consumer protection acts sooner about credit and Debit cards, and even now that we have those laws in place, the banks have come up with new rules to circumvent them, so now we have to pass even more laws to stop them (again)
And it wasn't a Republican that came up with and got it passed The Health Care laws a Democrat did, and the repeal of DADT, and now all they want to do is continue to stall the progress we have made and derail future progress, by trying to repeal, (Although I and everyone else knows it isn't perfect, but it's a start in the right direction) and we could do better if they rolled up their sleeves and went to work on Wall Street Reforms and the many other programs to help people and not drain them, I.e., This one letter I received from Washington from my Representative Of how low they can go and they are not done yet:
Dear Andre,

Thank you for standing with Sens. Barbara Boxer and Kirsten Gillibrand to make sure John Boehner and the House Republicans know we will not accept this attack on women's health. Please take a moment to tell your friends about this campaign by forwarding the message below.

Thanks again,
The StopHR3.com team

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Hi,

Join me in standing with Sens. Barbara Boxer and Kirsten Gillibrand to send Speaker Boehner and the House Republicans a message: we will not stand for the egregious attacks on women's health. Visit www.stophr3.com to join this fight.

O well, back to bed for me, have a great day


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